Travel Support Thursday

Okay, so over the years, we've accumulated more than a few pretty dumb travel gadgets,

right?

Under the Sun.

You know, those YouTube videos that you watch online where people go through packing lists

and they're all nicely set up and organized.

For those of you that are listening on audio only, that is not what our current setup looks

like and it's driving me mad.

Yeah.

Yeah, so what we're going to try to do here is we're going to go through our list of things

that we have like, that we really love, that we've kind of discovered in the budget, travel,

gadget, or gear space.

Some of the stuff that we used to love that we just like, you got to get rid of it.

And then some of the stuff that's really specific to making YouTube videos that we both love

and also some of it that we kind of hate.

I can't take you seriously right now with the travel pillow just pushing your face up

like this.

Yeah.

What if I scare you with this drone?

No.

No.

Please turn it off.

The drone freaks me out.

Yes.

Okay, let me do it.

When you've gotten your finger sliced off by a drone, you would also.

All right.

I got it.

Let's get rid of this thing.

Let's get this thing started.

Okay.

Travel Thursday.

That's what you get.

Travel Thursday.

Today, we're talking about the top and best, no, the best and worst travel gear that we

have accumulated in the last four or five years.

Top five worst and best for sure.

And what we're definitely getting rid of probably after today.

We're going to start with our top five.

So the top thing that we have tried and true, we love.

There are some things we change about it, but this is the one go to backpack that we

have had for the last four years, three years, Cotopoxy.

Whoa.

Josh has gone through a downgrade or a down size.

Not a downgrade.

A down size.

He has the Cotopoxy Alpa 28 and I have the Cotopoxy Alpa 35 liter bag.

These are great.

Cotopoxy is a great company.

We're not sponsored by them, although we wish we were.

Maybe we should try to make that happen.

You're a Cotopoxy.

Wow.

We love your backpacks.

The Alpa backpacks are great because the outside is made out of this great water resistant

material, but really what makes it special is the inside.

You've got basically compartments.

They're not travel cubes, but they are compartments that you can break up like your clothes, your

underwear, your toiletries, all your little gadgets.

They have a laptop sleeve.

It's a really great all-around backpack.

It's great for traveling specifically because you don't have to worry too much about hip

belts.

I just feel like it's a great all-around backpack.

It's the one that I've kept for the last, I think, three years.

It's great for city travel.

It's not good for hiking, per se, because you don't have the hip belt.

Actually, it did come with the hip belt, but it's useless.

The one qualm, the one qualm, which maybe Cotopoxy, if you're out there.

Put a water bottle holder on it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just a little mesh thing.

You could put it right here.

It could go right here, maybe over here at just this whole back thing.

Why is there not a water bottle holder?

If you look at any Cotopoxy thing, there's like a million things that says it's a great

backpack, comma space.

It doesn't freaking have a water bottle holder.

I don't know why they haven't put one on yet.

It might have to do with your tongue.

That's true.

Anyway.

It's the perfect backpack, and then they're so close, and all they got to do is put some

way to put a water bottle on it without a clock it around.

This is a good thing to remember for our later when we get to the worst things.

Also, one last thing, plug for Cotopoxy, even though we're not sponsored, but again,

we'd like to be.

They're a great company.

They do good company.

They support good causes, and I think they use reusable materials, which is extra special

to my heart.

Okay.

E-SIMS.

Yeah.

E-SIM.

That's not an E-SIM.

But it goes on your phone.

So in case you're not familiar, an E-SIM is just an electronic SIM, and it's a SIM card

that you can buy using like AeroLo, or Biggie, or a recent startup called...

Saley.

There's just like...

Hand changer, man.

Yes.

It's like the first thing we buy before we go on a trip out.

Long gone are the days where you have to look for earrings that you can plug into the

little hole in your phone to take out the physical SIMs and negotiating with vendors

at the airport to get the best physical SIM.

Good riddance.

Good riddance to that entire process.

Overpriced SIM cards having to like go through this whole process of giving a dude your passport

to be able to like have him scan it into this assuredly very not secure computer system,

and then receiving a SIM card back that's way overpriced for all like a very small amount

of data.

Good riddance to all of it, all you do is you go on to AeroLo before you leave on your

trip, install an app on your phone, bam, you have data on your hand.

Yeah, it's basically...

It's just totally replaced the thing that was there before for us.

It's pretty incredible.

I don't know why you wouldn't.

I can't even imagine going back to that era.

Right.

Right.

It seems like going back to an era without cell phones.

That's how far past.

Right.

I remember when we used to go to Japan, back in, I don't know, 2008, when you'd have to

go and rent a wireless router...

Yeah, a little Wi-Fi in the brain with you everywhere.

Yeah.

No, a lot of those days.

So I definitely think eSIMS have changed our game.

I don't think, I mean, we definitely have to do our research to figure out which one

is the best one for each country because they're not all the same across the board.

I'm sure there's magic involved or technology things.

Sure.

Some of these companies are really great.

If you don't know too much about eSIMS, I think we actually have a Travel Thursday podcast

all about how to use it like AeroLo.

We walk through the step, step by step.

So check that out.

The next one, our trusty travel adapter.

This bad boy right here.

It's the Epica, Epica travel adapter.

It's been with us through a lot.

Yeah.

We've had this thing for a while.

It's got a strong enough USB-C port on the side of it right here to be able to charge

our MacBook Pros that we travel with as well as just about everything else that we travel

with.

Four USBs on the bottom, plugs into every country on planet Earth, and this thing has

been rock solid for years.

They have a newer version that has more USB-C ports and charges stuff even faster and it's

a little bit lighter, but the Epica one, this one, this bad boy right here, best in the

business.

Josh's only complaint is that when you plug something in, it makes a little light go off.

Yes.

When I tell you it's working.

And so you'll see, even though this is a really, really good travel adapter and strong, Josh

has taped it with electrical tape just to cover it.

Yeah.

I do that with everything that we have that I just don't think things need LED lights

on them to tell me when they're working.

Like I plug that into a wall and then if I plug a cable into it and it charges my phone,

I know it's working.

I don't need the thing itself to have a little green light on it that keeps me awake at night.

I don't need all that.

I have so many, I have so many opinions today.

Thank you for that story.

Yeah.

The thing that I added on this list is a new find actually.

It's these things.

These are, I think they're called travel squeeze bags, squeeze pouches of sorts.

I bought these actually at a, I actually bought these at Flying Tiger, one of my favorite

stores in across all of, across all of Europe.

They're, they've, you know, they've replaced my little squeegee bottles and I know for

a lot of you who maybe are like, why are you even bringing toiletries on the road?

Listen, I'm in my thirties.

The sun's always shining.

I love the sun, but I got to protect my face with sunscreen.

I'm very particular now about what kinds of things I carry with me.

Certain kinds of face cream, certain kinds of sunscreen.

And I don't want to have to bring the whole bottle and I'm not going to check a whole

bag for it.

So, yeah, these have come in handy and they cost like $2.

And they're surprisingly, they're surprisingly sturdy.

So this has made the list.

And plus it allows us to do a thing that we definitely don't do ever.

No, we don't do this, but you could, you could, but we don't do it.

You fill them up with the stuff that you find at the hotels, with the bottles of knives.

We don't do this, but you could.

Try for more tips and tricks.

Okay.

So the next thing on the list, yes, this little guy, totally real, probably.

Got it from Vietnam, Patagonia fanny pack.

This thing has been, you know, I know a lot of people make fun of fanny packs and I feel

like there was a phase, there was a trend, but I'm on board with this trend.

It's not only comfortable and it's not only comfortable and stylish.

It holds surprisingly a lot, especially when we're on the go in places like big cities

where we don't want to have to carry around a big old backpack, especially when you get

in places where you have to wear the backpack in the front.

Yeah.

A bonus.

I always like to keep a little tote bag in there, just in case.

I know people say not to pack just in case, but tote bags go a long way.

We use them for laundry, for groceries as we're traveling.

For everything.

Yeah.

We use them for basically everything.

Okay.

Packable.

Yeah.

Let's talk about the bad stuff.

I can tell you one really bad one.

What's that?

This is a Josh purchase.

Yes.

Yes.

I bought a massage gun on our Camino because I was feeling real achy and that thing is

great.

It makes you feel really good.

Also, it weighs.

Hold on.

Hold on.

I just want to give the audio only listeners for what an experience with this massage is

like.

I don't know if that'll do anything.

It's heavy.

It's really heavy.

It's awkward and it gets pulled out at security every single time.

I was going to say, I was telling people what TSA is like with this thing.

TSA hates it.

Hates it almost as much as I hate it now.

And I almost always just leave you at TSA because I get through because I'm not carrying

a massage gun, but you are and I just pretend that I don't know you.

You get stopped 100% of the time just because of the shape that it has and the fact that

it has a giant battery in the bottom.

It's like getting anti-TSA pre-check.

It's getting whatever the opposite of that is.

That's what you get when you bring one of these with you.

You're getting checked for a half an hour longer every single time that you fly through

the airport.

Because you can't check it on.

No, you can't put it in your luggage.

You can't put it in your luggage.

It's, ugh, man.

It'd be so cool if it was like a quarter of the size and still strong, but obviously the

physics of that are not, they don't make sense, but they, I don't know, we just, it's a purchase

that we're going to leave at home basically from now until the end of time.

When you say we.

I am going, yes.

Here you go.

That goes to your side.

Okay.

Next up on the list.

Next up.

Ray-Ban Meta Sunglasses.

Another Jersh purchase.

So the original idea for this thing was to be able to like use them to film.

They got little cameras on both sides that can pick up audio and they, they're also Bluetooth

so you can play music through them.

They're pretty cool, but we don't use them at all to film really.

I just literally use them as just normal sunglasses.

And as normal sunglasses, they're pretty good, if not a little bit heavy.

And they also talk to you sometimes like it's talking to me right now into my ears.

He has a saying, Bluetooth connecting.

Please select a song.

Oh, well, so that is one of the benefits.

I will say is that sometimes you use it for jogging, talking to people like you, can't

you connect it to like talk to people on your phone?

But you know how like when AirPods first came out and you'd see people having phone conversations

with their AirPods in and nobody really knew what that was yet.

So they just thought they were talking to them and it was really awkward, you know,

this is like 10 X that problem where all I have a sunglasses on and I'm having a full

on phone conversation with no phone in sight and people look at me like you like I'm more

than a little bit weird.

And that, you know, I would say the societal cost of owning one of these things is pretty

high.

Yeah, like how many times have you counted, how many times, can you count how many times

you've actually used the camera on this?

Oh, I'm going to take a picture right now.

That's probably the 10th time I've ever done that.

Oh, yeah.

So we can we can show you what the video looks like through here.

Wow.

And it's vertical only, right?

It's this weird, it's the Facebook format, which is like a square.

So it gives you even worse, unhelpful for both kinds of videos that you'd make if you're

making vertical, you'd be mad if you're making horizontal, you'd be double mad at it.

It's a it's it's a cool product that I got really excited about for being able to like

film in like complicated situations where I didn't want to have to be holding a camera.

We've never used it for that at all.

It's like I probably never will.

Yeah, I guess we were really excited.

And by we, I mean, you were really excited about the idea of it.

It's very Inspector Gadget, right, for those millennials that watched Inspector Gadget

back then.

It's really cool.

The technology is so fascinating, but the actual use case is pretty, pretty slim.

Like you're just when are you ever going to use this?

And how creepy has this technology gotten over the years?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyway, I don't know.

Okay.

A bozo purchase and a bozo mistake right there, for sure.

Acceptance is the first step.

Okay.

Travel router.

Okay.

So this little thing, this little guy is a travel router.

And the idea behind something like this is to be able to plug this in at any hotel that

you're at, and then you have your own like private little secure network.

And or cruise, right?

Yes.

But in reality, it's just super annoying to have to set up everywhere that you go, even

for like a IT mega nerd like myself.

And the wifi signal out of something like this is so poor and so small that you can't

even like go to the bathroom in your own room without losing signal off of it.

So was this thing awesome for finding a workaround for sharing a singular bot like wifi signal

on a cruise and being able to share that through multiple devices?

If that's what you're trying to do, if that one singular use case is what you're trying

to do, this thing is perfect.

How much was it?

Maybe like 60 bucks off of Amazon.

And if you're not doing that one thing with it, you will never bring this on a trip with

you ever again.

Interesting.

Another George Purchase.

Yes.

There's a trend.

Oh, no.

Okay.

What's the next one?

Neck pillow.

Oh boy.

All right.

Here we go.

So this was an experiment to attempt to see if a neck pillow, if I was going to be a neck

pillow person, that's what this experiment was.

And it turns out this thing, it sucks.

I don't know how people sleep with this thing, but it's not great.

I actually heard that the correct way is this way.

Oh really?

Yeah.

So your neck doesn't fall through.

The opening is supposed to be actually at the back.

Wow.

I do not like, I like this less somehow.

It's just so bulky.

It's so big.

But you look great.

And for us, we're traveling on budget airlines all the time.

This doesn't fit in any part of that.

And if you try to get on a plane with this and a backpack, they're for sure going to

charge you for having too much.

Although I read the fine print and I heard that travel pillows are not considered part

of your personal item and like carry on.

So if you just wear it, maybe it's not a big deal.

But yes, I also, when you, when you purchased this, I remember it was at a U.S. airport.

And how much was it?

30 or something.

Like $42, I think.

This one's, I think this one's a really high end cab, Cabo high end neck pillow.

I do remember though, being tempted to get one because I definitely have been feeling

my age where when we travel now on planes, especially if I'm in the middle seat, my shoulders

are just wrecked for like two days.

But the worst, worst, you don't sleep any better with it.

You don't sleep any better with it.

It doesn't help.

It doesn't help.

I don't know what the solution for sleeping on a plane is, but it's not this.

It's probably, it's just paying for a life.

Let's see.

Yeah.

Tell us out there.

What are your biggest tips and tricks?

Okay.

So this one's a Lisa purchase, but actually not a purchase.

This is like a general thought about bringing water bottles on a trip.

So I'm all about reusing things.

I'm all about reusable items.

I love my reusable water bottle.

I think your mom gave me this one actually has two kitties on it.

I got to be honest.

We never bring water bottles on our trips for so many different reasons.

One, a lot of places that we're going to, you might not even be able to drink their tap

water.

Yeah.

And two, you end up buying like a water bottle of some sort on the trip itself.

Like usually more often than not, wherever we're going, we're going to buy a big gigantic

bottle of water and then that will be our plastic, unfortunately, our water bottle,

our plastic water bottle for the entirety of the trip.

Bringing these along has just become a little bit more cumbersome, maybe because of the

backpack.

Yeah.

But I think it's just like, yeah, they're just, they're always clonking around.

They always take up a little bit extra space and they're heavy.

They're really heavy.

So to be honest, we just don't use them that often unless we know we're going on a trip

where we're, we're going to be able to drink the tap water and come home and bring it back.

Yeah.

I'm not sure if that'll change.

Like if, if we do end up finding a backpack that beats the one that we have and has sleeves

in it, maybe we'll start bringing our own water bottles.

Maybe that's more likely, but for now it just feels like, especially for some of the countries

that we're visiting where we can't even drink the tap water anyway, it's not worth bringing.

For sure.

So this next section, that was our top five things that we love and then our least five

things that we love are our bottom five.

So for this one is going to be stuff really specific to us, right?

Like YouTubers that travel the world and make movies.

What are like the big changes in our gear that we've loved and that we've hated over

the past little bit?

So I'd say first thing that we love does this camera right here, this Sony a seven four

with a 24 to 105 F four optical stabilization lens on it.

And the road video mic pro plus, just the whole setup.

As our whole setup, I think we're, we're happy with it.

Yeah.

I agree.

And we're not exactly, I mean, you know, if you watch our videos, we're not exactly

the set up every single shot.

Make sure that we, you know, take everything cautiously because we're, we're definitely

like always, always be moving.

We call ourselves ABM eight, always be moving and, and the camera and the, the mic with

how much we're always be moving ABM, it's, it's held up pretty well.

Yes.

And I, I wish we treated them a little bit better.

Yeah.

We moved less, but we just brought this camera in for its first ever cleaning and the guy

when he gave it back to us was like, wow, there was so much sand and salt in this camera.

We tried our best to get all of it out, but wow.

And there was more than a little judgment in his voice of all the stuff that we have put

this camera through, but this thing just lives on our hip, walking for 12 hours a day every

single day.

It's just a total workhorse of a camera.

We've dropped it.

It's gotten rained on.

It's gotten snowed on.

It's gotten snowed on and been dropped at the same time.

It's been in the northern most city in the world.

Yes.

Yes.

It just runs all day films where it's switching out SD cards or switching out batteries a

bunch of times a day and it just, just keeps doing its thing.

And for how much I, for how much I really, really hate the unfortunate shape and aggressive

nature of the road microphone.

Sure.

It's a really good mic.

We've tried different ones that are a little less intense looking, like fluffier, like

almost pet, like this one we'll show you a picture, you know, it's just, it's intense,

but it's, we think it's the best, best one for, especially our style of traveling.

Yeah.

For this run and gun style where we're literally never standing still, optical stabilization

makes our videos watchable.

Speaking of that, a thing that we have gotten rid of, thing that we don't bring with us

anymore is this gimbal.

We tried filming a single video with this gimbal and about 10 minutes into it, we were

like, heck no.

You know why?

ABM.

Yeah.

We're, we're moving too much.

This thing takes so much setup and riff-raff and you're like, you're like running around

with this huge thing all day and it attracts so much attention and it just, you look like

such a yacht while you're out in the world filming with this thing.

I mean, not that we already, I mean, we already look like yachts.

For sure.

Yes.

It's just extremely stable footage, but it's such a pain.

It does look like you're floating on air, but who actually floats on air?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Which is it?

ABM.

Okay.

Can I have this?

Which thing?

That special thing?

Yeah.

So this is also a very specific to us, mostly specific to Jerj purchase that, that I actually

purchased for you.

So I feel kind of excited about it.

So this is a reusable bowl that's, that compacts down into what, and this is a reusable bowl

that you can travel with because it compacts down and expands out.

Yeah.

I bought this from Target.

Do you know what?

It's dishwasher safe, food safe, microwave safe, only if the lid's not on, just so you

know.

This is really just important for Jerj mostly because cereal.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It allows me to eat cereal and also any of the other various meals or other stuff that

we bring with us.

Muesli.

Gives us like a safe place to cram it into and takes up almost all the space.

It's basically when we're traveling to places where we can't afford to go out to eat and

we're going grocery shopping.

Like, like all of Europe where we would use this every single day.

And US.

Yeah.

That's it.

Okay.

Next thing that we've stopped taking with us totally, this drone.

We used to bring this thing everywhere, but the drone laws have become so convoluted,

so complex that it's just not worth it to fly with it anymore.

Yeah.

We've gone back and forth.

I mean, we definitely were really, really into flying.

And by we, I mean you, we're really into flying the drone.

Drone shots are incredibly beautiful.

They offer a unique vantage point that we can never get just by being on the ground.

But I don't know, over time, especially as we were moving around and started our one-year

trip and started this kind of like three days in X format, the drone has just become way

less important for several reasons.

One, it's big, it's bulky, it's loud, it's a lot to set up.

It's a lot to like, not only set up, but then like make sure you have battery, make sure

you're following all the rules and regulations.

It's just, it's again, ABM.

So there's not a lot of time for it.

And then I think we kind of go back and forth on this.

Sometimes we feel like drone footage could add to the depth of a movie in a video.

Like if you want to show the scale of Cupba, for example, we're in Vietnam, but then then

we're also, we went through a phase and I think we're still in this phase where we kind

of feel like, you know, we're trying to make movies that feel realistic, realistic to the

actual traveler and attainable and most people aren't going to get this view, right?

You're never going to, unless you have a drone yourself, unless you get in a helicopter

or you get in a gondola, you're not going to be able to get the view that a drone gets.

And we see the value in them, but I think for the kind of films that we're making now,

it almost feels like why show that if someone will never ever, never be able to see that

view themselves.

I want to say I have a lot of admiration for all the work that you did to like learn how

to fly it and all the drone pilots out there who have learned how to navigate and use one

of those things and capture the footage that you can with it.

It's breathtaking.

It truly is.

And it does inspire and give you a lot of sense of awe.

It's just, you know, we're ABM.

You got to stop saying that.

I don't know, tell us what you think, drones, yay or nay, what do you think?

I spent a ton of time, I got my part 103 certification to learn all the different, all the different

flying rules.

It was a ton of work, but it's just also they're scary.

It's just, yeah, they are scary.

They are scary.

It freaks everyone out around you when you fly the drone.

It sounds like a bunch of angry bees in the air ever so it like messes up everybody else's

time.

And really, we won't go down the story path, but yes, there was a time in Mexico where

I got clipped and the sliced off the tip of my finger and I will never forget it.

And I am scared of drones forever.

And yeah, it just, unless you're in a completely barren, no ones around space, I just feel

like drones don't really make people feel at ease.

No, yeah.

It only adds anxiety.

It's such a distraction.

Like if you're, like we were sitting in Cabo Bay and there were tons of people flying

drones around.

Or Ninbin.

Remember that hike that we went on?

Yes.

And you're just like, you're in this group of people and people are sending off what sounds

like a swarm of angry hornets off to the world and then they have to land it back in

this crowded group of a bunch of people.

It just, it screws up the experience for everyone around you.

It's, I don't know.

It just doesn't make sense for us anymore.

Maybe we've changed, but yeah.

I think we just value different things now.

Like we don't have to get the shot.

Yeah.

So the thing that I have been loving lately is some noise.

Hold on.

So the thing I've been loving lately is these noise canceling headphones.

Yeah.

Yes.

No.

Maybe.

What?

I'm not saying anything.

Can you hear me?

So these things have been great.

I used to think that they were way too big to bother bringing onto planes, but in reality,

they're just so comfortable. And I also noticed that when I wore air pods on planes for like

the eight hours or 10 hours that were on planes, my ears would just feel awful at the end of

it.

And I was starting to get ear infections from wearing those things in my ears for as long

as long as they were, they need some cleaning.

Maybe, maybe, but I'm not going to do that.

And these way more comfortable for reason for a long time, way better noise canceling.

I don't know.

These are like the anchor ones that you can get off of Amazon.

All this stuff is going to be in the link in the description below.

These and things like them, these are probably $40.

They're much more expensive ones that are some amount better, but I've been liking these

things so far.

I will admit, I was always a hardcore analog.

I want a wire to know where my earphones are, ear buds are at all times, and I was never

really into noise canceling, I just, I like ambient sound, but one thing I will say since

switching over to these is I appreciate that there's like a little bit of, this is not

even, this is going to sound so dumb, but it's the, the act of putting on noise canceling

big headphones that makes me feel like, okay, it's time to get to work.

It's time to do some editing.

And so, and the quality of the sound is much better.

I still prefer the plug-in over the Bluetooth because I notice a slight leg in Bluetooth

of like audio when I'm editing, but it is much softer and kinder on the ears.

This is a GoPro.

Yeah.

We used to travel everywhere with a GoPro.

And then invariably, every single time we would look at the footage that came out of

the GoPro when we'd filmed, it didn't matter if we were underwater, above water and perfect

lighting.

It was the best GoPro.

This is a GoPro 11, 9, this is a GoPro 9.

So like, I don't know, two or three years old.

Every time we look at the footage, it just made us want to throw up.

It looks so bad.

And you could try to add filter, filter, and it just like never matched the quality of

like, and we know like cameras aren't like underwater cameras, action cameras are never

going to match the quality of our like Sony, Canon, but it's worse than an iPhone.

It's worse than almost anything that I've used.

So we have fully replaced that with this DJI action cam.

In fact, I'm just going to put it right on top of it.

This is the same thing, but just everything looks better and it works better and the battery

life is longer.

And it's cheaper and it doesn't overheat and it can do 4K at 120 frames per second.

And the sound is much better.

Just everything about it is just better in every single way, including the stabilization.

Okay, next step, this is actually a surprising one that I feel like made the, yeah, not good,

not so good list and not that it's not good.

So this is a dry bag and it not that it's not a great purchase.

It in theory is really smart, but we found that we just don't use it.

We never use it.

Let me think about this.

Like it's not that we don't use it because I'm trying to be objective about this.

I understand the purpose of dry bags.

I understand why they exist and why they're good and valuable.

Like when you're going in a kayak and you don't want your camera wet or you don't want

your wallet to fall into the water, you know, whatever, and lose your money, dry bags are

super useful.

But I think when we're traveling, luckily, you know, if we're going to go near water,

we just bring our DJI and we don't bring the other stuff that we would normally like,

we just don't bring our phones with us.

We don't bring our cash with us.

We don't bring our wallets unless we absolutely need to.

And you guys have seen our videos.

We do plenty of water related, water adjacent things, more than probably most people do

on any given trip.

And the reality is, is when it's raining, we just go indoors, we just do something inside

it, instead of putting all of our junk in the water, just get dry.

And then I've also found that especially when we're going to places like Kut Ba, Hot Long

Bay, or even in the Philippines, every boat tour that we've done that was near water,

you can always leave your stuff on the actual boat and or they have dry bags.

So yeah, I mean, I just, it's not one of those things that I like regret buying or regret

bringing or regret having.

We just almost always though, when we have it rarely use it.

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

And if we do have a backpack and it's raining, we just, luckily, our Kodapoxy bags are water

resistant and they also have the backpack covers for when it's really down pouring.

Yeah.

That's my two cents.

Yeah.

I think that's it.

I mean, that's a quick one.

I think we still have some of the stuff laying around that we don't use.

I don't know, but I think it might be time for some spring cleaning.

Thanks for watching.

Maybe we'll use this.

On this travel support Thursday, we'll see you next time.

Maybe we'll use all this stuff someday, I don't know, but really, I think the moral

of the story is, is that if you're a travel creator, don't get a gimbal.

I think the moral of the story is, if you see something and you like it, think about

it before you purchase it.

See you next time.

I feel like that was targeted at someone in particular, I can't tell who.

Did someone say target?

Okay, bye.

Bye.