Why We Quit Our Jobs to Travel the World

Welcome back to travel support.

Well, travel Thursday, travel Thursday, we got a brand new

series for y'all inside of this lovely brand new podcast studio

that we're sitting inside of. So a lot's changed. It's been a

little while. Yeah, it's been a little while. But we have a

brand new idea for this podcast, a brand new thing that we want

to do. And it's called quit your job, travel the world. And

that's more or less what we're going to be talking about

pretty much every single podcast episode, every single week

from here on out is our thoughts, our process, every single

thing that we had to do to go from like, in our nine to five

jobs, you know, four, five, how long five, six years ago, all

the way through saving up enough money, quitting our jobs,

traveling the world for a year that has now turned into like

four or five years, and then eventually coming back home, all

of that stuff in as much detail as we possibly can, in as many

episodes as it takes to get there. So that that's our plan.

Yeah, on top of like our we're still going to be doing our

three days in X videos on a budget on our main channel. But

we've been getting a ton of questions from a lot of you

regarding this topic of what it was like to truly just quit your

job and travel the world, but not just what it was like, but

like specific questions and recommendations. And we have gotten

a chance to actually meet a lot of you out when we're

traveling. So cool. And, and hearing stories about you guys

taking some time off, getting sabbaticals, all of this has

like prompted a lot of good questions and conversations

around this idea of, yeah, what is it like to quit your job to

travel the world? Yeah, because I think it's perfectly natural,

like if somebody came around to you and just said like, Hey, I

quit my job to go and travel for a year. I think the first

question out of almost everybody's mouth is just how

right. And then after that is like, how can you possibly

afford it? And then after that is like, no, really, like, how

the could you possibly afford to do that? You know, there's

just for doing that. There's so many questions, I think around

this process and definitely way more misconceptions than not

about what this actually takes and the sacrifices required to

do it. Like, there's so much bad advice on social media about

travel. And just in general in the world, like, there's all

these kind of influencers who you see out there, traveling the

world, doing all this crazy stuff every day, and then they'll

give you advice, they'll be like, how did you do it? And

they'll answer like, you just got to change your mindset, bro.

That's all you got to do you manifest. You got to manifest it.

Listen, you just like stop buying Starbucks for like three

days, and then bam, all of a sudden $40,000 in your bank

account and the boom, you're a Polly. You got to stop talking

like that. So it's, it's that sort of stuff that energy of

like, providing absolutely no real detail about how to do this

thing and no real understanding, but just saying that it's like

some mindset shift that you need to make to be able to quit

your job and travel the world. It is part of it, for sure, but

it's not the whole story. It's not the whole picture.

And we know, you know, a lot of people we're not saying you

should go out and quit your job and travel the world. Not at

all. That's not what we're trying to encourage people to do.

But because this was a thing that we did and it changed our

whole life, our whole lifestyle, our whole jobs. And we've gotten

a lot of questions from a lot of you about this. This is one of

the reasons why we want to talk about it. The other thing is we

also think that, I mean, the more that we do this, I feel like

the more that I've learned personally that there's so many

ways to travel the world and not quit your job. So I think for

people that are not looking to go out and burn bridges and

quit your nine to five, I think there's so much in the series

that also hopefully will be helpful for you about traveling

and what it means to take an extended amount of time to

travel or chase any big dream that you have.

That's true. That's true. Because I think, I think really

what we're making here is the guide that we wish that we had

before we started this whole thing, the guy that we wish

that we had when we had this idea of like, Hey, do you think

it'd be possible to like take a one year trip and go wherever

we want and then, you know, kind of like return back to normal

life? Yeah. And at that time, when we first had that idea,

there was nothing and there still isn't really much out there

that's talking about this in like an actual in depth how to

sort of way. I mean, because the truth is not everyone can

quit their job. No, no, should they? No, I think a lot of

people have an idea of like, I want to go to Europe for two

weeks or I want to go like go around Southeast Asia for like

three months and then take an extended break. And I think I

don't know this, this series will change and evolve over time.

I mean, already this podcast has changed over time. We're no

longer sitting on the ground for those of you that aren't

watching all your cheers now. We have cheers. We have a

backdrop. But I think the hope is that this podcast will also

provide information that we don't even know and have the

knowledge about like, I would love to bring on experts and

other people that know what it's like to take a sabbatical,

ask your jobs about taking a sabbatical. What it's like to

be a digital nomad. I mean, we are digital nomads and that we

work and we're nomadic and we work on our computers but we

don't have the traditional like we have a boss that we work

for. Right. I mean, I guess. I mean, each other. I suppose

YouTube. All of this is supposed to be hopefully helpful for

anyone that is remotely interested in travel long term.

But let us know in the comments what questions you have,

what thoughts you have and hopefully we'll keep growing

and evolving this thing and providing the information that

you're looking for. Also, tell us what you think about this

backdrop. I'm undecided. She thinks it's a little busy.

It's a little busy. We have a lot going on. If you're listening

to this, right, like if you're listening to this on

podcast, there's maps. There's a giant backpack. There's

like 25 different photos. I love it. In fact, the busier the

better for me. Maybe that's my ADHD head talking but just

like the more stuff generally the heavier I am. And I'm like

minimalist, clean space, just a few things, really important

few things. Yeah. Anyway, so let's get to it. So why should

you listen to us about this topic? I think it's a reasonable

question. Maybe maybe you've never seen our faces before and

this is just popping up for you and I think it's a good

question that you should ask of anyone before you listen to

anything they say on the internet. So between the two of us,

we have quit our jobs to go and travel the world five total

times and that's a lot. Times. Four of them were Josh. Sure.

Yes. Let's be clear. Yeah. And so going through this process

is kind of second nature to us at this point. We've done it

a lot. We're like you go in, you work a year, you save up a

bunch of money, you move all the things in your life that you

need to move, you sell all your stuff and then you go and

travel for a year and then you come back home and you're

like, oh, now I need to do this whole thing again to save up

more money to be able to travel again. Doing that as many

times as we've had and also now traveling effectively full

time for our living. I think makes us one of the most

experts on this extremely niche topic of quitting one's job to

go and like pursue anything big but especially specifically

traveling the world for like a year or three months or however

long you want to go. I think the goal really for this podcast

series is to be able to share our experiences, share what we

did, what mistakes we made, what things we wish we had

known, what things we would have done differently and then

hopefully provide that experience for you to take and

say, is this something that I want to do? Yeah. And if so, to

be able to actually like help you do it. Yeah. You know, to

help you make it reality. Okay. So, that's what this

entire thing's going to be about. That's what this podcast

is going to be about from here on to the you know, foreseeable

future which I'm really excited about. The thing that we want

to talk about today is why would anybody want to quit their

job to travel the world? And I think this is a very good

question and I think for some people, they'll hear that and

be like, duh, like doesn't everybody want to quit their

job to travel the world? You know, when I hear that, I like

immediately want to be like, no, I want to play devil's

advocate and I want to say, but on the other hand. So, I

think that's like what we're going to talk about today. Like

what was our reasoning for quitting our jobs to travel

the world? What was like the impetus? What was the reason

that made it happen? What was that that driving push? And now

that we're on the other side of it, do we have regrets? Do we

wish we would have done things differently? And yeah, like a

pros and cons. Why did we originally want to quit our

jobs to travel the world? So, I'll just talk about my my

first time here back in 2011, 2012. And I think that the

story is going to resonate with a lot of people out there of

like, maybe something that they're stuck in right now or

something that they felt before. So, 2011, I had gotten out

of college a couple of years before that I was working like

a pretty steady job. But I always had this like feeling

that something was missing in my life. I always had this

feeling that like, I don't know that this like nine to five

job that I had been like working my entire life towards, but

not really for me. I just been like working towards it

because I thought that that was the thing that you were

supposed to do. You know, just like go to school and get

like pretty good grades and then go to college after that

and then just like pick out a major that's like safe, but

also kind of will make you money and maybe will also be

lucrative at some point and maybe will provide job

security and stability in your life. And I realized after

like a couple of years of working that job that I didn't

really value many of those things if any of those things

like stability was not a thing that I was particularly

interested in security. I just I never really spent much on

anything at all. Well, it's interesting because I mean, I

think

it's interesting because to know that you don't value it, you

had to have had it, right? So it sounds like I mean, and we

both were lucky enough to come from stable and kind of

secure families. Yes. And to be in a place where we could

make that decision. But yeah, for sure. It sounds like at

that time you were like, this is great, but like what else?

It just wasn't making me happy. Yeah. It just wasn't making

me happy. I I remember distinctly going into work one

day and I worked in IT and we were installing this like new

phone system for this company that we were working for. And I

went into this big boardroom, this huge place and there were

like 40 people in it. All them old, all them just cranky as

hell. Wait, did you say 40? Yeah, they were like 40 people.

Oh, I think you said 40 years old. No, not no. They were all

the ages were all sort of like, I don't know. Probably not

talk about age. Yeah. Yes. There were there were just a

bunch of like people who were much older than me and and made

it like further down the line of the play like like the path

that I had just started. And I remember sitting there and

seeing like the people on our side of the table trying to

explain that like here's how the phone system is going to

work and you don't have to worry. We've got it. Everything's

going to be fine. And then the people on the other side of

the table so stressed out and just like, oh, you better not

screw this up. But this phone system is the most important

thing that could ever occur. And I just had this like

disassociative moment of just like watching this happen and

nobody in the room like really actually cared the fact that

they were losing sleep over losing hair over it losing

their minds over this thing. This thing I just looked out at

I just in that moment I just like sat back and just

projected into the future of like, that's going to be me. If

I don't do anything different, best case scenario, I'm going

to be like that VP of IT just right across the table from

us face red, screaming about a phone system that'll be me

someday. Best case scenario if I do this. And at that moment,

seeing myself turn into this person that's like, you know,

30 years older than me who had made pretty good money, but

lost his sanity and kind of like his spark to live.

Over that time just like witnessing that in real life

future me. I just knew that there had to be a different

path. And I knew that it wasn't that and it wasn't that and

I know that that's like a privilege thing to even be

able to think about. I guess I like travel wasn't even a

thought in my mind at that point in time. It was just not

this whatever this is whatever is causing people to behave

like this. I just I can't do it. So why yeah, why travel? Why

was it like I need to take a break and just I don't know

go to Disney World or I need to who just travel but uh why

not just change careers or go back to school or you know,

why why was it travel? Yeah. So I think part of it over

honesty time is that it just it made me sound cool. My ego

wanted it for a little bit. Is that like I wanted to be the

guy that went on a trip around the world. You know, I

wanted like in my head that was the version of me was just

like little nerdy Indiana Jones. You know that that's the

people that I looked up to when I was a little kid was people

just like flying around to whatever they wanted and like

that part of that was there and then I found an opportunity

which you know if you're gonna know me at all. Great deal.

Finding a good deal is about the biggest motivator for me

on earth to be able to do something. I found this way. It

seemed impossible at first of course to be able to quit your

job and travel. It wasn't even an idea and then I saw this guy

who had like traded in a bunch of little pudding things for

like millions of American Airlines miles and then just

traveled forever. He just like kept flying from place to

place off of his infinite American Airlines miles and I

was yeah see it's like putting cups. Yeah, little pudding

cups and you who do you take it to? He teared the thing off

him, mailed it in and then they gave you American Airlines

miles and this dude just I wish that still exists. You know,

this dude just like figured out that the pudding cups were

cheaper than what the miles were worth. So, he just like

bought pallets and pallets of this stuff. Yeah. But it was

that idea and that sparked in me this first concept that like

oh, I can be the guy that travels around the world. I just

need to like do some really wacky stuff in my life. You

like combined your love for gaming any system. It's true.

With the love of travel and met them. Yes. And that's what

really brought that idea first to my head. Honestly, I was

never really the person. I I'd only left the country I think

once by the time that I was like 21 and when I saw that I

saw a different vision in my mind, you know, no longer did I

see me 50 years old losing somehow more hair than I've

already lost and like yelling red faced across the room about

building on a phone system. I saw me in Thailand eating like

pod tie on the street or like hanging out on a beach in

Malaysia or like traveling across Europe with a backpack

on. That's the new vision that I had in my head as soon as I

saw this like wacky dude with his pudding cups that he had

like solved this problem of just being able to travel around

the world for effectively free and being able to see that the

vision that I saw of myself that person wherever that went

probably didn't have a lot of money like that future me who

is traveling the world was probably not rich but I

realized I didn't care about that. That's not what that's not

what I wanted. That's not what I wanted. What I did want was

at that time to look cool. Honestly, this is like the

guy that did that but to just be more adventurous to do an

entirely different path in my life. Something fully different

than anything that I had done before. Anyone that I knew who

had done it and back in 2011, it's not like there were a lot

of people talking about this. Almost nobody. So, it sounds

like your initial why was just opting out of the current

situation. I was running away from something for sure. I was

running away from something but then I also in the part of

running away this something like dug up the uncovered this

whole other life path. Yeah. That I don't think I would have

ever found had I not you know like I think those things led

to each other but for sure the first thing was just fully

unhealthy like I gotta hit the eject button on whatever this

life is and do something doesn't really matter what's

different. It wasn't like it wasn't like uh ooh let's um let's

take two weeks off. Let you let's use that PTO for a little

bit and then go back to work. I need a refresher. You were

just like nah. Nah. There was no world where two weeks of

PTO would have been able to and those guys had taken tons

like the other people in this giant conference room. They

had taken those two weeks of PTO per year. Maybe even more. I

bet they have four or six weeks as an American because they

had been working there for 30 years but still it's just it

seems like they had just lost their spark for life and that

for me was terrifying. Okay. So, what about you? I've been

talking for too long here. So, what about you? Um so, when

was the first time that you like had this idea in your head

that hey, maybe it's time to go and do something bigger. Take

a big chunk of time out and go and do something. Yeah, it

wasn't. I mean, truly, it wasn't until we met and we got

engaged and I remember the exact moment we were sitting on

the couch in our apartment and we were planning our two week

hopefully, if we were lucky, two week vacation honeymoon.

Yeah. We had done some light planning for our wedding but

really, we were focused on where are we going to go? What

what places are we going to see on our honeymoon? And I

remember we were filling out the spreadsheet and I was like

well, I've always wanted to go to Thailand. I've always wanted

to go to Rome. I've always wanted to go to Paris. I've

always wanted to go to the UK. I've always wanted to go to

Cambodia. I've all you know, there's all these places kept

coming up and I remember filling out the dates and saying,

well, we could only have like three days is three days and

is three days enough as we're learning? No, never. Yeah. Three

days and anywhere is not enough. It's a good start. Three

days, you know, in Thailand and then we have to fly all the

way somewhere else like how is that going to fit and I

remember just feeling like it was the most clear thing that I

felt in a really long time and maybe like the last three

years that was like a clear solution. The clear the

clearest solution was what if we quit our jobs and take a

year? I think I like looked at you and I just said, well,

why don't we just take a year? And I remember you were so

stoked and I was like, and I was like, yeah, yes, I'll do it

again anytime. And I was and and I wasn't even I don't even

think I thought about it the way that you were thinking

about it. I think because I had spent most of my life not

running away from things and and I had lived the same thing,

the stable, secure life, very I had lived the same way, very

stable, very secure, but I value those things and I and I

still do. But you know, I did the same thing. I I was lucky

enough to go to college. I was lucky enough to go to grad

school. I worked in a very stable job. I I you know, and I

wasn't even really interested that much in travel and the way

that I think a lot of people crave travel. I remember at the

time before we met, I wasn't even I think I used to scoff at

people that would travel the world and they'd come home and

they'd be like, oh, I was in Paris for the summer. I was in

Barcelona and I'd be like, okay, yeah, I was at home just

substitute teaching for a little bit. Yeah, that's what I

was doing saving money. It just didn't resonate with me

because we didn't travel as kids. We didn't go

internationally. Travel was a leisure thing and my life

wasn't for the longest time. It felt like life wasn't meant to

be lived for leisure. Life was meant to be lived for working

productivity, taking care of your family. Those were the

things, right? Like and so that's why I never really left

home. I never really moved far away from my family and taking

a trip. Even taking PTO was like not good. I remember when I

first started my real job and I told my mom, oh, I'm going to

a conference and I remember I was going to take an extra day

for the after the conference. It was in Arizona, I think and I

was like, I really want to see um I really want to see

Antelope Canyon and it's so close and by so close it's like a

few hour drive. Sure. But I decided I was going to go to

the conference and then take an extra day to go and see

Antelope Canyon. My mom was like, don't take up too much time.

Don't take off too much time. Your bosses will be upset and I

was like, so that was my mindset. Like I cannot, I'm not

allowed to. It's frowned upon. It's your only job is to work.

You should be afraid of taking vacation. Yes. You know.

And so, I don't, I mean, so for me, it wasn't like a one

moment that like changed my life. I think it was a creep for

me where like I started to enjoy travel more. I loved

nature. I love nature photography. I loved being

outdoors and the more I started to experience that on my

little two day, three day vacations, eventually one

week vacation or two week vacations, it came to a

point where I was getting upset that the system that we

were in didn't allow for more experiences of the world.

Yeah. And so, by the time that we met, it just was like this

pure frustration in planning our honeymoon and thinking down

the line. I don't know when I'm going to get to see Thailand.

I don't know when I'm going to get to see all of Europe. I

might be 70 if I keep going at this pace of like one week

here, one week there, two days here, three days here.

And who knows what kind of trip you'd have at 70 or if you'd

even be able to take a trip at 70. Or if I would be alive

even in my 30s or 40s. Like there was no guarantee and

there was a part of me that also realized after I turned 30

that nothing's promised, right? We know that. We say that a

lot but my dad had passed away in my late 20s and this is

weird but I had a college roommate who had known me and my

family for a long time and the way she explained it to me was

when my dad was alive. I remember, I never, I always went

home on the weekends for college. I always went home on the

weekends for college. I spent all of my time off, all of my

holidays with my family. And a lot of that's cultural but a

lot of it is also this like fear that I had that something

was going to happen to my family. Oh, so it was like you

couldn't leave because, oh if I leave but then what if?

What if something happens? I'm gone and this occurs, okay.

And so, that's what I'd spent most of my life doing. Like

never left home, never left, not even, not even for like a

weekend, you know, in college I spent most of my weekends

with my family just for that fear. I remember canceling a

trip to visit my cousins in Colorado one Christmas because

I thought, what if this is the last Christmas? Oh. And like, I

don't know where that came from but that was like a thought

that I'd always had. My college roommate said it to me,

Bas, she was like, it's almost like you're living like your

dad's dying but he wasn't. And then, and then when he passed

away, I realized that I'd spent almost 30 years of my life

living like he was dying. Not living. And for him, right? Like

he was still there. Yeah. Anyway, long story short, it was

for me it was blessed. Did he ask you to do that or was this

a thing that you like self-imposed? Was this a, was

this a thing that you decided of like, okay, my dad's health,

it's not terrible but it's not great. Yeah. Like, I need to do

this. No, he never asked. You know, he never, but it is one of

those things that is implied in our family. Okay. Family comes

first above all else and I still think those things are

true but it looks different for different people and I think

for me, it became this. Well, I have to make sure this is

okay at home. I have to take care of this. I have to like, I

felt responsible for a lot of things at home. Right. And if I

wasn't there, then what's gonna happen? Unnamed bad thing

with her like, who knows like, but it would be bad. Whatever

it would be, it'd be bad. And then I realized after he

passed, I mean, anyone who's gone through a loss like that,

any loss, it's bad anyway but. Yeah, there's nothing you can

do to really prepare for it. No. And while someone's around,

I mean, that saying is still, it's cheesy but it's true,

cherish the people and your health, your life, the things

around you while you still can. Yeah. And I realized I was

cherishing it but like, not. I wasn't. I wasn't really

cherishing it. I was acting like eminent bad things were

gonna happen. You were just like holding on to it as tight

as you could. Yeah. Hoping it wouldn't slip. And that was

paralyzing and that in turn led me not to ever consider

travel, ever consider a different career path, ever

consider leaving. Do you think, what do you think your dad

would have said if he knew that like, that was the

decision you were making and why you were making that

decision? Oh, I think. Like, would he have said go or would

he have said, please stay close or would he have said like,

make sure you visit a couple of times a month? Like, what would

do? I think. What do you think his advice would have been? I

think he would have said and he would have been honest,

selfishly, I want you to stay. I think that's what he would

have said but I think he would have ultimately been happy

and proud and like, happy that I'm happy. That you want to go

travel or did the things you want to do. Yeah. And and I

think, I still think to this day, this is getting way on

topic. Sorry. This is. I'm just sure there's a lot of

people out there who are probably thinking the same

thing. Yeah. You have thought and probably going

through a similar thing that you went through. I know

everyone has different relationships with their

families in different ways to, you know, relate to their

family. For me, it was like a, I felt like I had to be

home. That was like my duty. That was my responsibility.

Whether it was imposed on, I mean, there's a little bit of

that. I don't want to put my parents on blast but you

know, it's. It was an expectation. There is some

expectation and it's a little bit of cultural

expectations and there's a little bit of pride that I

have to help and take care of my family. Yeah.

But I think by the time we met and we got engaged and

we were thinking about all these places that I'd never

been that I wanted to experience. Like I think it

was the first time that I was told or that I was

allowing myself to dream. Allowing myself to think

what alternative reality could I have here. Yeah. And

what do you think made you be comfortable with that

mindset? Whereas like the 30 years before that you were

like, no, this is the thing that I need to be doing.

I think it was just true, just frustration and just

understanding that I would never be able to do it

if I didn't do it then. Let's see. And I think like I

said, I'd spent 30 years up until that point not

doing the exact opposite of that. Yeah. And I wasn't

any. I mean, I wasn't unhappy and it sounds like you

were very unhappy in your job. But I think that

there's something in there that we had a lot in

common which is just avoidance of future regret.

Sure. And I think that both of us had that same thing

of like, how am I going to feel if I don't do this?

How am I going to feel if I let this opportunity pass

20 years from now, 10 years from now, whatever, even

two years from now? Yeah. How am I going to feel and how

am I going to look at myself? Am I the type of person

that goes on a trip around the world or am I a type of

person who just dreams about it and just lets it kind of

slip away? Yeah. And that decision for me of like

avoiding that regret that I knew I would have if I didn't

actually go through with it because it felt so right.

Hearing the idea felt so, so right. I lost a really like

my best friend I lost in, I don't know, sophomore

junior year of college. I just watched this guy that I

spent every single day with just all of a sudden go from

super healthy to stomach cancer to I'm speaking at his

funeral in like three months. And that like changed

something in my head. Immediately, the realization

that I don't get to control how long this ride goes,

that I don't get to decide, you know, when this ride

stops for myself, this ride of life. That came

definitely from back then in college, just watching my

best friend and going through all of this with him

step by step and just seeing how just unexpected. There was

no reason, the healthiest dude, amazing swimmer, just like

worked out all the time, ate pretty good, never really

dragged, just like he was doing all everything right,

everything right in college and then it was just over for

him. And that was a huge wake up call for me to realize

that if I'm going to do something, I need to do it

as fast and as soon as I can because I don't get to choose

when this is done. And I know that that sounds scary and

yes, that's had some negative side effects for sure, where

like I feel like I'm always in a hurry to do everything all

the time. I like injected some of that fear in it, but it's

also injected, I think some positive motivation of the,

you know, the way that I look at life in general is like,

it's time to go. I gotta do this because I have no idea

when I won't be able to anymore. And I think the

riskiest thing that anybody can do is to assume that you're

going to be able to do it later. I mean, we were lucky

where we were in some of the best positions financially

because of our jobs. We had each other to like support

those dreams. Yeah, well, I mean, we had to make ourselves

be in a good position. I don't think we were in a good

position when we started. We were in like a, we started at

zero, which is good. A lot of people are not at zero, but

what I was saying is like we had we had the resources to

build on that dream and support and support and I think

we're lucky. I mean, I mean, a lot of you hopefully can chime

in, but we've met a lot of people that come from very

different places, very different countries. Some

countries, like a lot of European countries, it seems

like it is the de facto path to like go travel for a few

months after your after your job or in between jobs. And

that's not really the case here in the US and it's not

really the case in like Singapore or a lot of Asian

countries and a lot of mass majority of countries. So,

yeah, it's so different, but I do think, yeah, we were lucky

that we found each other at that right time and that we

were planning because honestly, who who doesn't want to

tell someone we're planning a one year honeymoon? Right.

Because like for me, growing up, I always felt like I had

to have a reason to travel. Yeah. It could never just be

because I want to go see the world or because I want to

go take pictures on the beaches of Bali. Like I had to

have a reason. It had to be either I'm visiting family. Oh

okay. Yeah. Or it's for work. It's a conference. Right. So,

that's why I was always looking for conferences abroad. But

it's so much more fun to say and kind of justify it. We're

going to take a year off for a honeymoon. So, when that like

when that decision locked into your mind of okay, it's time

to do something different. It's time to go and maybe travel

the world for a year or six months or however long that we

can. Would you say that you were more afraid or certain than

like what fears came into your mind and what were you excited

about? I don't think I was afraid of the actual traveling or

the actual saving up. I mean, I knew one we were both very

thrifty to begin with and we saved a lot. We didn't really

have a you know and that we would I knew that we would

come up with a plan. The thing that I was most worried

about honestly was telling my job and telling people like

telling my family, telling my friends that this is something

we were going to do just because I hadn't known. We

hadn't known anyone that had done that before and I'm

generally a person that's afraid of judgment. I do care

about what people think. I care about

I cared about and I still care about like the job that I was

in the career that I built. That was like the most top of

mine. Yeah. For me, it was how the heck am I going to

afford this? Yeah. It was the first thing because I was

broke at that point in time like broke broke and I was not

making that much money. I was just on the you mean on your

very first one. Yeah. And I was just like I was just

sitting there just trying to cobble together like a

couple a hundred dollars to be able to afford a couch or

like an apartment consistently and I I remember that

moment in time just seeming like doing some basic math

that looked like it was going to cost like fifteen to

twenty thousand dollars to be able to travel the world for

a whole year like I wanted to and just looking at that

mountain and just look like Everest like an impossible

mountain to climb. Of course, I was afraid of telling my

friends. I was kind of excited to tell my friends but I

knew that their reaction and everybody's reaction and I

think you know fairly enough was just you're not going to

do that. Like yeah, this is another one of Josh's

crazy ideas because I do have a lot of crazy idea. This is

what you do. Um my fear was basically how am I going to

find the money and am I just going to let myself down

now that I've told everybody that I'm going to do this?

You know like how am I going to pull this off? And I think

that that right there is a perfect segue to to the next

episode that we're talking about. So, this is just episode

number one. I don't know how many episodes of this thing

it's going to take to be able to explain every single thing

about how to quit your job and travel the world but I'm

sure it'll be quite a few and we've got a lot of

interesting topics to talk about. So, I also am really

really excited. Don't you think I forgot about the devil's

advocate of like why quit your job to travel the world

because I think there are definitely some cons. We won't

get there until later. Yeah, we're going to talk more

about that and everything else. We're going to bring

experts on to talk about all like the kind of hard stuff

definitely hard stuff of like how do you actually tell

your boss that you're going to quit your job? How do you

reapply for the job that you quit when you come back home

without it being weird? How do you save up enough money?

How do you sell all your stuff? How do you actually get a

visa? Everything. Everything is going to be in this

podcast eventually. And let us know in the comments are

there topics or questions that you have around this very

topic or if you have thoughts or expertise or

experience doing this yourself. What were some of your

motivations and if you don't want to quit your jobs to

travel the world, tell us why too. Yeah, there's going to be a

listener Q&A at the end of every single one of these

episodes once we'd start getting enough questions and

we're going to be answering all those and the deeper and

more awkward that you can ask the better. Okay, that is all

for this one. Really hope you guys enjoyed this. We're

super excited about this new series. Yeah. Don't forget to

hydrate. See you next week.

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